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California Burning: Episode 2—Native Intelligence

Matt Fidler

Native Californians used fire to maintain the forests that surrounded them for more than 14,000 years. This prevented future wildfires and supported many plants and animals that need fire to thrive. On the second episode of California Burning, Matt shadows a pyrogeographer and learns how the Yurok Tribe on the Klamath River and the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band of Santa Cruz are bringing fire back to the land.

"When we put fire on the land, there's something about it that just, it speaks to your spirit. It's like you connect with it and you connect on a deeper level with the land." —Margo Robbins

Credit Matt Fidler
From L-R, Professor of Pyrogeography Don Hankins and President of the Cultural Fire Management Council Margo Robbins.

Featuring President of the Cultural Fire Managment Council, Margo Robbins; Chico State Professor of Pyrogeography, Don Hankins; and Chairman of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band, Valentin Lopez. 

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Matt Fidler is a producer and sound designer with over 15 years’ experience producing nationally distributed public radio programs. He has worked for shows such as Freakonomics Radio, Selected Shorts, Studio 360, The New Yorker Radio Hour and The Takeaway. In 2017, Matt launched the language podcast Very Bad Words, hitting the #28 spot in the iTunes podcast charts.