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California Burning: Episode 5—Our Future With Fire

Matt Fidler


How can we address all the different factors associated with the wildfires plaguing California? On the fifth and final episode of California Burning, we seek solutions. We learn about alternative building materials that can withstand fire, and we go to a fire-resistant house that was the only in its neighborhood to survive the 2018 Carr Fire.  


"Functional ecosystems are vastly more productive and vastly more valuable ... every single person should know about this because every civilization that didn't protect their ecological systems ... those civilizations failed and the sand is blowing over the ruins of once great civilizations around the world." —John D. Liu

Featuring CEO of ENPLAN, Randall Hauser; California State Director of American Forests, Brittany Dyer; Mike Mitzel of Sierra Pacific Industries; CEO of Clever By Nature, Valerie Navarro; Brennan Byrd; Working Lands Program Director of Point Blue Conservation Science, Wendell Gilgert; and Ecosystem Ambassador for the Commonland Foundation, John D. Liu. 

Full transcripts of this episode, photos and links at All episodes also available on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Matt Fidler is a producer and sound designer with over 15 years’ experience producing nationally distributed public radio programs. He has worked for shows such as Freakonomics Radio, Selected Shorts, Studio 360, The New Yorker Radio Hour and The Takeaway. In 2017, Matt launched the language podcast Very Bad Words, hitting the #28 spot in the iTunes podcast charts.